Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Collecting Basics - Replica Field Marshal Baton


I received an e-mail today from a Paki fake peddler offering me a replica field marshal stick (baton) at a very low price. I get this type e-mail every day, seems they all think that because I run this web site I "must" be in the business of ripping off collectors with fakes. What a bunch of scumbags they all are!

There is nothing new about fake field marshal's batons, they've been around for years. The thing is all the fakes I know of up till now have been rather expensive, selling for several thousand dollars. However, this one is cheap... only $100. The good thing is, the maker only wants to sell them 10 at a time. I like that because it should slow his sales considerably.

Now I know that none of you experienced collectors would be fooled by this thing, but it could spell trouble for the newbie. The reason I'm posting this is because I can see the following happening. Some unscrupulous dealer buys 10 of these zonkers, goes to the trouble of "ageing" them, then puts one on his table at some small gun show at, what looks like a bargain price, and waits for the sucker to come buy. What's especially dangerous about this item is it's low price, which means more of them will probably pop up at a price new collecors will go for.

I haven't seen one of these in person, so I don't know how well they're made, but from the pics they look good enough to fool some people. So, if you see a field marshal's baton offered at a "bargain" price, watch out!

If you know about a "dangerous" fake and would like to share the info with our readers, please email me and we'll see if we can put the info on this Blog. You can remain anonymous if you wish. info@germanmilitariacollectibles.com

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Thursday, November 26, 2009

Collecting Basics - Fake Nazi Cloth Items

I know many of you look at these items and think... "Why does he bother showing these? Anyone would know they're fakes."

Just today I received an email from someone asking me if I could please tell him what kind of "soldiers" were in the photo and tell him anything about them. They were two RAD men having lunch... The point is, there are a lot of newbies in our hobby who really don't know whats what and can use all the help they can get. If you or I saw these items on some dealer's table we wouldn't give them a second glance. But to the new collector they look like just what he's been searching for...and besides they're a much better deal than what that other dealer has. Newbies in our hobby are ripe for the picking and there is no shortage of people willing to rip them off with this type of fake. Unfortunately the market is being flooded with this junk. If by showing these we can educate them to the fakes that are out there, then we are not only helping them but helping the hobby as a whole.

Every day there are reports that this place or that has been bombed in Pakistan. And every day its never one of these embroidery factories!

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Sunday, September 27, 2009

Luftwaffe Daggers $5.95 Each



The advertisement on this page was run widely in the mid-1950s in American magazines like Popular Science and American Rifleman, and a great many daggers were sold. I know, because I bought one for $5.95. During the same period, Robert Abels in New York was selling a nearly complete line of Nazi daggers with the correct sheaths at a price of from $10.00 to $20.00. Abels had no trouble getting all the German militaria that he could sell.

Major Jim Atwood was apparently the first of the present group of “collectors/authorities” to visit Solingen in search of World War II "warehouse finds" and he didn’t even get there untill
1960! ln fact he was a late arrival, and a good deal of the best merchandise was long gone at very low prices.

It is still possible to have any quantity of grips, blades or entire daggers made to order in Solingen. The difference is that it is no longer practical. when Atwood was there in the 1960s one US dollar would buy something over four Deutsche Marks. As this is being written (1993) a dollar will only buy slightly more than one Deutsche Mark! ln other words, it is extremely expensive at the moment to have daggers made in Solingen. It is far cheaper to have them made in Spain, India, Pakistan or some other "emerging" nation.

At the bottom of this page and on the two following pages we have reproduced a small portion of a 175-page Robert Abels catalog from 1949. As you can plainly see, he was very much in the Nazi relics business less than five years after the war ended. Sellers like Abels would not consider stocking and cataloging material that they couldn't double their money on. Therefore, it is perfectly safe to assume that he was paying less than $9.00 to have a SA dagger made for him in Solingen, and delivered to him in New York, freight and duty paid.

From this Robert Abels catalog I purchased a quantity of the #1509 NSKK metal hat badge, shown below, at a price of two for a dollar. At the time I bought them I had no reason to question their vintage. With knowledge I gained since I bought these badges from Abels, I have concluded that it is most likely that this material was made after World War II specifically to fill orders for the American and British markets.


Ray R. Crodery, "Luftwaffe Daggers $5.95 each", NAZI MILITARIA - REAL OR FAKE, 1993

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Tuesday, August 4, 2009

High Quality Fakes

Below are photos and descriptions of some "high class" fakes. Both the photos and text came from the maker's sales literature. It looks to me, and I can only speculate, that the maker is selling these to militaria dealers.... and getting very good prices for them. I'm sure the dealers who buy them are very careful to tell their customers that these are not original pieces. They would have to, because these fakes are so nicely made they might fool many collectors and, of course no dealer would want to do that.... Bob Treend

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These SS insignia sets are punched from the very same original molds or die sets that made the famous Third Reich SS visor cap insignia and expertly finished by European craftsmen. Each of these amazing "POST WAR ORIGINAL" SS visor cap insignia is gracefully aged by hand, one by one, to perfection. It would not be inaccurate to label these handsome SS insignia "Museum Copies" since they come from the original molds or die, hence the preferred term "Post War Originals".

This set of "Post War Original" SS visor cap insignia are absolutely identical to the originals. After all, they came from the same molds.


A very rare early pre RZM Museum Copy SS Visor Cap Early Totenkopf skull.This finely detailed SS Totenkopf skull is cast in pure silver directly off of the original Private Purchase piece. Each piece is handmade and perfectly aged, identical in every way to the originals.


An ultra rare early short wingspan Museum Copy SS Visor Cap Eagle. This finely detailed SS Eagle is marked "11/21 RZM" and is cast in pure silver directly from the original piece. Each superb piece is handmade and perfectly aged, identical in every way to the origanals.


This handmade pure .925 silver visor cap eagle is without a doubt the "Mercedes" of all Third Reich headgear insignia. These were purchased by the discerning NSDAP Political Leader who wanted nothing but "The" very finest of insignia to proudly display on his cap.

The detail of this correctly maker marked M1/111 and RZM'ed eagle is noticeably finer than on the base metal die stamped versions.They also exhibit considerably more weight. Make no mistake these are no lightweights.

This superb "Museum Copy" is reproduced directly off a rare original insignia and measures 57-mm wing tip to wing tip.

Each of these amazing eagles is gracefully aged by hand, one by one to perfection.

If you're interested in some Original Third Reich Insignia you might want to click here.

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Thursday, July 2, 2009

The Fakers Are Getting Better!

This is a tough hobby for new collectors and all the fakes out there don't make it any easier. Below is an example of some fakes currently available to anyone with some cash. Some of them look pretty good and from the photos many experienced collectors could even think they are real.. not so. They can be bought, aged a little, then sold to the "newbie" as the real thing... all for a nice profit. The copy describing each item is from the manufacturer, not me. It is obvious, errors not withstanding, that whoever is behind these fakes knows something about Third Reich relics. I made comments on a few pieces.

A word to the wise; if you don't know what you're doing, be careful.



Knights Cross of the Iron Cross


Very high quality replica of the Knight’s Cross, marked “800” on both the back of the cross and the suspension loop. Made of correct three piece construction with magnetic center, lightly aged. Come with a full neck ribbon with tie straps that have been sewn in, also with very light age. Currently available




Reichsfurher SS Heinrich Himmler Collar Tabs New Version

A new version of Reichsfuhrer SS, the highest rank in the SS, which was most famously held by Heinrich Himmler. Silver bullion wire embroidery over a very fine black velvet backing. This new version has thinner piping and very good detail. The wreath is complete with tiny glass beads, very carefully replicating one of the original examples. (This is pretty close!)



Reichsfurher SS Heinrich Himmler Shoulderboards

New versions of the RFSS shoulderboards with the correct, accurate silver oakleaf cluster rank devices (Himmler wore these silver clusters from 1934 -1939, and then again from April 1942 through 1945). Boards are slip-on version with silver grommets and sold as pairs. Tone of oakleaf devices varies from age darkened silver to brighter silver. Currently only darker versions are available.



Reichsmarschall Hermann Goring Shoulderboards

Massive shoulderboards for Hermann Goring’s unique rank of Reichsmarschall, which was the highest military rank of any nation in World War Two. Triple gold braided cords in bright bullion over the Luftwaffe white underlay that was reserved for General officer rank. Large, solid cast gold board devices of a Wehrmacht eagle surmounting crossed Reichsmarschall batons.



Reichsmarschall Hermann Goring Collar Tabs

An excellent pair of matching collar tabs for Goring’s rank of Reichsmarschall. These are unlike any other replicas made to date and are incredibly accurate to the original design, right down to the backing material. The tabs are embroidered in gold wire and bullion in the 2nd pattern RM design which was introduced in March of 1941, consisting of crossed Reichsmarschall batons on both the left and right tabs. Newer version with all gold embroidery.



Reichsmarschall Hermann Goring Breast Eagle

Goring was probably the most flamboyant character in the Third Reich and exercised his own personal touches in development of insignia for his many uniforms. One of those was the creation of a special breast eagle for use on all of his uniforms. This eagle was a little larger with wider wingtips and was always on a white background during the time he served as Reichsmarschall. This replica was faithfully reproduced from that design and has incredible detail.



Reichsmarschall Hermann Goring’s Utility Uniform Shoulder Straps

At the close of WW2 Hermann Goring had a very unique and rather spartan uniform tailored for his rank of Reichsmarschall, which was more closely resembled the Allies uniforms in its simple nature. The only rank insignia exhibited on this uniform were on a pair of shoulder straps, each embroidered with the Reichsmarschall eagle and crossed batons similar in design to the gold devices on his standard shoulderboards. These shoulderboards were designed and created using surviving pictures and illustrations as reference. Straps are slip-on style, embroidered in gold bullion and wire, with gold twist piping over gray wool.



Generalfeldmarschall von Rundstedt Colonel-in-Chief Shoulderboards

Special shoulderboards for GFM von Rundstedt when wearing his uniform as honorary Colonel-in-Chief of the 18th Infantry Regiment. Standard General officer shoulderboards of intertwined gold and silver cords over a white branch underlay for Infantry designation. Crossed batons affixed at the base with regimental ciphers “18” positioned above the batons.



Luftwaffe Generalfeldmarschall Collar Tabs

New inventory with a revised design to the batons. A matching pair of Luftwaffe Generalfeldmarschall collar tabs, accurately produced in fine gold bullion and wire over a fine, soft white wool underlay. A pair of silver embroidered, raised crossed batons are overlayed at the base of the wreath. (A little too gaudy looking.)



Luftwaffe Generalmajor Collar Tabs

A matching pair of Luftwaffe General der Flieger collar tabs, accurately rendered in fine gold bullion and wire over a white backing to indicate General Officer rank with single rank wings.



Luftwaffe General’s Breast Eagle

Premium quality gold wire hand embroidered Luftwaffe eagle with dark brown thread highlighting over a blue-gray backing for General Officers in the Luftwaffe.



Army (Heer) Generalfeldmarschall Shoulderboards, 1940 pattern

A matching pair of Heer GFM shoulderboards in standard General officer construction of two outer gold bullion cords and silver aluminum inner cord over a red underlay, with crossed baton devices in the 2nd pattern design. This regulation combining the 2nd pattern batons with standard general officer boards only lasted from September of 1940 until April of 1941, yet was widely utilized as can be seen in many period photos. (Damn!)



Army (Heer) Generalfeldmarschall Collar Tabs, 1941 pattern-gold wire

In 1941 collar insignia was created specifically for Heer Generalfeldmarschalls to set them apart from the other General officers by elongating the tab with the addition of a third prong in the middle of the design. This replica is beautifully executed to mimic the style of one of the more well made original manufacturers, in all gold wire similar to Manstein and Brauchtisch examples. There are only two of these in stock.



Army (Heer) General Officer Collar Tabs

Standard pattern Heer General officer collartabs used for all ranks of Generals throughout the war (including GFM, until 1941). Two tone gold wire with buff highlights. (So well done it's spooky...)



Waffen SS Obergruppenfuhrer Collar Tabs

Pair of SS General Officer collar tabs with three oakleaves rendered in fine silver wire over a black velvet backing. Two silver bullion pips to indicate rank of Obergruppenfuhrer. (Close, but no cigar! Shape of the leaves is just not right.)



SS Officers Arm Eagle

High end, extremely accurate reproductions of aluminum wire and silver bullion SS officers arm eagles. These are very well made and hard to discern from originals. Only have two examples remaining.



SS Visor Cap Eagle

Very convincing, high end copy of a SS visor cap eagle. Nice, aged matte finish with patina around the edges and two prongs on the reverse. Looks much more real than all of the shiny cheap reproductions currently on the market. (these are all over the market like a rash!)



SS Officers Brocade Belt and Buckle

Complete brocade belt for the dress uniform of an SS officer. Single piece construction buckle. Belt is green felt-like badge cloth backed. Only two of these are available and are on consignment. (I wonder... with who?)



Totenkopf Sanitats Collar Tabs

Pair of vertical collar tabs for a Scharfuhrer in the Sanitats (medical services) of Totenkopf. White cotton embroidered thread over a black felt backing. Right rank tab has a single pip and tresse. Edge piped in a silver/black twist piping.



NSDAP Reichsleiter 1st pattern Collar Tabs

Extremely well made matching pair of 1934 style, 1st pattern Reichsleiter collar tabs, accurately produced in a mixture fine embroidered bullion and wire over a fine, soft red wool underlay and edge piped in gold. Only one pair available. Excellent copy.



NSDAP Reichsleiter Collar Tabs

A matching pair of late pattern Reichsleiter collar tabs, accurately produced in fine embroidered nylon over a fine, soft red wool underlay. Only one pair of these is available. (They even used green bullion to replicate the corrosion found on originals)




Diplomatic Official Sleeve Rank Insignia in Silver

Sleeve insignia as used on a diplomatic dress uniforms. Silver Wehrmact eagle with outstretched wings, surrounded by a laurel wreath on a black background. Another rare piece of high ranking political insignia manufactured in detail worthy of the original and never before seen replicated. Price reduced. (They said this was Ribbentrop's insignia... guess they don't know everything.)


If you would like REAL THIRD REICH RELICS you might want to give our web site a try.


Bob Treend, The Fakers are Getting Better", MILITARIA BLOG, 2009

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Sunday, June 7, 2009

Fakes & Frauds - Committee Report


Attention all MCA members and friends!

Below is reproduced in full the chapter on Fake Nazi Daggers from Major Thomas M. Johnson's forth coming book. This is the firstin a long series of fakes and frauds reports to the MCA membershipfrom the FAKES and FRAUDS COMMITTEE of the MCA. This article is of such importance and so well written that it has not been edited. Any member who has even the slightest interest in Nazi daggers is greatly encouraged to buy Major Johnson's book as soon as possible. It may save you a great deal of money and grief in the long run. MCA wishes to thank Major Johnson for his kind permission in sending us this chapter from his book for publication in the JOURNAL prior to public dissemination. His support of the efforts of the Fakes and Frauds Committee is most gratifying.

CHAPTER 12

REPRODUCTION NAZI EDGED WEAPONS AND HOW TO SPOT THEM

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all ofthe people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the peopleall the time." — Abraham Lincoln

The response to an early request for suggested subject matter for this reference has been gratifying. Siphoning through the plethora of requests and comments, one subject stands out-reproduction Nazi edged weapons and how to spot them! Any collector who has undergone the unfortunate experience of spending hard-earned dollars for a 'super rare' Third Reich edged weapon which subsequently turned out to be a phony is understandably anxious to preclude making the same mistake again. Unfortunately, unscrupulous dealers and collectors abound and very few sizeable collections are completely void of any phony pieces.

This chapter will not delve into specific reproduction mistakes made for each particular model Third Reich edged weapon. This subject area is vast and warrants a separate reference book in itself. Two preliminary efforts dealing specifically with reproduction Nazie dged weapon models are a paperback pamphlet published in England by R. McFarlane in July, 1969, entitled, Bluebook of Identification of Reproduction Nazi Edged Weapons, and a section devoted to the subject in Major Jack Angolia s latest book on edged weapons entitled, Edged Weaponry of the Third Reich.

Page 16 Vol.1,No.4

The theme of this chapter will be to provide the researcher/collector with some general guidelines which will serve him well in attempting to identify counterfeit pieces. Albeit, there is absolutely no substitute for experience in examining edged weapons,there do exist several reproduction indicators that will serve even the beginner well. Usually the individual with the inherent facility to never be 'taken' by a reproduction edged weapon is the same individual who has been an ardent collector and researcher for many years. The correlation between years of experience and probability of being duped is obviously not due to chance alone. The reproduction indicators discussed below will be referred to as 'red flags' because, hopefully, each will serve to mentally raise a red flag in the collector's mind prior to engaging in a bad purchase. Once one or more red flags listed below have been identified, it is recommended that the particular piece in question not be purchased. Although not necessarily a certainty, the item is more than likely a reproduction. In this field of collecting, it is much better to be too cautious than not cautious enough!

1. New Appearance. The vast majority of edged weapon reproductions. on the market today appear to have been manufactured within the past few weeks (and might well have been!). Quite frankly, thirty years of age will tend to leave some telltale signs, regardless of the care and storage means utilized. When examining a piece, look at the screw heads. Are they bright, shiny, and completely free of any dirt or corrosion? Inspect the small leather washer under the crossguard (if one is available). If it appears as new as the leather on a belt that you just purchased, proceed with caution. Take a flashlight and have a close look at the inside of the scabbard throat. If all the internal parts appear to have been made earlier in the month, they probably were! Unfortunately, this new appearance indicator will not stand alone, as some unscrupulous individuals have discovered such devious means as burying, soaking in urine, etc., to purposely "age"reproduction pieces. Keep in mind that old appearance alone is no guarantee of authenticity.

2. Misfitting Parts. To state that German quality control is usually superior would probably be the understatement of the year. The meticulous quality control exercised by the Germans in the manufacture of automobiles, cameras, etc., is held in esteem the world over. The fact that Third Reich weapon quality control was superior is evidenced by the recent reproductions manufactured in the United States, Spain,England, etc., being no match for the originals. Thus, be wary of any misfitting parts. For example, if an SA dagger wooden grip bears large gaps between the handle and the crossguard, rest assured that it never would have left the factory. Likewise, an SA eagle and swastika grip insignia that rests in an indentation much too large to accommodate it should definitely raise a red flag. In general, be on the lookout for crudeness in manufacture and/or fit of component parts. Also take the time to include exact dagger dimensions in your edged weapons reference library. Numerous reproductions have grossly inaccurate dimensions. A previously unpublished blueprint of the original SA dagger dimensions was furnished to the author by well known edged weapon collector/author John Ormsby and is reproduced in this chapter. The credit for the talented art work goes to Mr. Frank Quinn of Chicago, Illinois.

3. Unmarked Interior Parts. If the edged weapon that you are examining lends itself for disassembly, carefully take it apart and scrutinize the interior component parts. Take the time to learn what markings, if any, should be evident. For example, did you realize that the inside of both TENO EM grips should be marked with the familiar Eickhorn squirrel trademark? The tangs of several different model dagger blades were carefully marked with the manufacture's initials and/or mark. Often each component part was stamped with a corresponding serial number vis-a-vis the Diplomatic and Government Official's daggers. Take the time to learn what to look for when you disassemble a particular model sidearm.

4. Unusual Variations. With the ever-increasing escalation of Third Reich prices, a multitude of 'one-of-a-kind prototypes' are finding their way into the market. While some of these pieces are indeed authenic prototypes, a 'non-documented' prototype should be approached with a great deal of caution. The vast majority of "prototype" Nazi daggers being offered for sale today are reproductions, and since the prototype pieces demand top dollar, insist upon comlete documentation prior to the purchase of one. Suggested procedures for edged weapon documentation is the subject of another chapter. Fortunately, the majority of the various Solingen Waffenfabriken sales catalogs survived the war and represent a collector's primary reference source. A tedious search of all reference sources available should be made prior to the outlay of huge sums of money for unusual variations or prototype pieces.

5. Faulty Engraving. Like the previous indicator, the premium prices sought for Third Reich edged weapons bearing engraved blades have opened the flood gates for reproduction engraved bayonets, daggers, and swords. Not only are complete blades currently being manufactured, but unscrupulous dealers and collectors are resorting to having the local jeweler engrave crossguards, scabbard fittings, etc., with fictitious (and sometimes actual) German names and units. Advice on the engraving issue would be two-fold; first, study the engraving style, depth, etc., of known original pieces. More times than not, the local jeweler's version is completely 'foreign' to the characteristic German patterns utilized during the war years. Second, resort to the original Waffen-fabrik sales catalogs to ascertain if a particular standard engraved blade pattern was in fact a product of the manufacturing firm in question.

6. Incorrect Proofmarks. The size of the edged weapons factories during WWII ranged from mammoth corporations to small 'cottage-craft' shops operated in the rear of Solingen homes. Obviously, each individual firm did not manufacture the entire plethoric gamut of Third Reich sidearms. In some cases, a single firm designed a particular model dagger and application for a patent was made. The blade was then stamped GES.GESCH. (Patent Pending). Prime examples of patented model designs are the TENO Officer and Enlisted daggers by the Carl Eickhorn firm. Even the more common models were often restricted to several selected manufacturers. Armed with extensive knowledge of which firms produced which sidearms, the wise collector can rapidly eliminate a number of phony pieces bearing incorrect proofmarks. For example, how many of the readers of this chapter could accurately consolidate a list of the only Solingen factories to produce Naval daggers for the Reich? The completed list should look like this -Alcoso, Clemen und Jung, Eickhorn, Holler, Horster, Krebs, Lauterjung, Luneschloss, Pack, Plumacher, Puma, Max Weyersburg, Paul Weyersburg, Winger, and WKC.

7. Incorrect Accouterments. An excellent red flag source is the accompanying accouterments to a particular sidearm. Although it is obvious that hangers, frogs, and knots are interchangeable and are often switched on authentic pieces, the reverse is usually true with reproductions. Most 'repros' are manufactured complete to include the accompanying leather or fabric accouterments. Thus, the wary collector is provided with yet another invaluable red flag source. When examining accouterments, make a careful inspection of the inside of leather items. Does the natural leather and thread stitching exhibit thirty years of aging? If all of the known original standard bayonet frogs that you have observed were constructed of smooth leather, and you are offered the 'opportunity' to purchase one constructedof pebbled leather - BEWARE! Check the condition and wear of the portepee/knot. Does it appear to be recently manufactured? One final word of caution, some unscrupulous dealers will add authentic trappings to a reproduction sidearm in order to avoid this particularred flag. Thus, one should not attempt to let this indicator stand alone, but utilize it in conjunction with the previously mentioned indicators.

8. Incorrect Factory Markins. Should you be fortunate enough to acquire a factory new (unissued) piece, compare the manufacturer name listed on the cardboard issue tag and/or paper shipping bag with theRZM code or proofmark engraved on the blade. Obviously, if the piece is unaltered, the manufacturer name listed on the tag and shipping bag should be the same company whoose RZM number or proofmark appearson the blade. SA daggers have been observed recently having WMW (Waffenfabrik Max Weyersberg) paper issue tags affixed to the upper scabbard fitting ring and RZM numbers of manufacturers other than WMW on the blades.

9. Non-existent Models. Unscrululous dealers have gone as far as to promote a demand for “original" Third Reich blades which never even existed under the Reich! The best example of this fraudulent effort is the brass Eickhorn Schutzstaffell (SS) pocket knife which has recently made its entry into the marketplace. These spurious SS knives are presently being manufactured in England and are 100% reproductions. Interesting enough, this particular fake has been manufactured with built-in aging and appears to be original in all respects. However,as mentioned in the discussion of the first indicator above, 'aging’ can be accomplished by artificial means. The wholesale price of these knives from the manufacture is only a few dollars each. However, since research indicates that this piece never existed and is a complete reproduction, its true value is much less than even the wholesale price. As a matter of fact, strictly from a collector's standpoint, this item is worthless and only tends to mar an authentic collection of Third Reich edged weapons.



In conclusion, the adoption of three general "rules of thumb" for collecting Third Reich edged weapons is recommended. First and foremost, become a student of the subject. Do not rely on gun show talk and the opinions of other collectors to educate yourself. Learn the facts for yourself. The best way to begin is to build yourself a large reference lebrary on the subject. The limited amount of published works in this field will preclude the price of a fine library from becoming prohibitive. Many collectors have made the unwise Statement, "I would much prefer to allocate the $15 pricetag of a current reference book toward the purchase of a good dagger." The truth of the matter is that the $15 expended for a good reference book might repeatedly preclude throwing away sizeable sums of money on bad daggers. The quote at the beginning of Chapter 2 by Benjamin Franklin is indeed apropos, e.g., "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him. An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest." Attempt to augment your current reference books with as many original Solingen sales catalogs as you can obtain. These catalogs have the distinct advantage of depicting only original materials, whereas a few reproduction pieces, unfortunately, grace the pages of most of the current reference books. Copies of the original catalogs and reprints of several catalogs are available from various dealers.

The second rule of thumb pertains to the subject of dealers (or sources). Find one whom you can trust explicitly and direct your total business his way. The integrity of Third Reich edged weapons dealers (and collectors) in this country and abroad runs the gamut from beyond reproach to totally unscrupulous. Fortunately, the hobby is small enough that a few fast inquiries to other collectors will usually distinguish the dealers and collectors to avoid. Those dealers or collectors who have sold reproductions for genuine pieces will be rapidly identfied!

A third general rule of thumb which will serve you well is if you have any reservations about the authenticity of a particular edged weapon, leave it alone. Psychologists refer to this uncertainty discomfort as "cognitive dissonance". Obviously, the dissonance may occur before or after the actual purchase, but much better for the purchaser if the dissonance is initiated early by one or more 'redflags', thus negating the purchase. An honest collector will readily admit that the vast majority of his 'maybes' turned out to be repros. Conversely, if you should see an item for sale at a show, in a shop, or on a dealer’s list, that appears to be original and would fill a soughtafter hole in your collection, do not procrastinate. A common sign to be found in antique shops is, "The best time to buy an antique is NOW. If you wait, it will be gone!" The same rationale is certainly true of WWII edged weapons. Every attempt, humanly possible, has been made to preclude a single reproduction piece from appearing in this reference, except for photographs appearing in this chapter on reproductions.

William J. Ringler, JOURNAL, Military Collectors Association, C.1975

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Monday, February 9, 2009

They Keep Trying !

These three "gems" were posted on our web site today by a dealer in Europe. Do these European dealers think all Americans are morons? He also posted a Nazi ring which was so obviously fake I'm not even going to bother putting it here. Four items posted, all fakes. Below is a brief analysis of these items. Don't look for them on our site, they have been remove, the seller's membership cancelled and his money refunded.


This piece of garbage would not fool a 6 year old kid. In fact, it looks like the inscription was done by a 6 year old kid. I can't say for sure, but I don't think the "Florian Geyer" SS cufftitle was ever produced in an embroidered officer version. Only ones I know of are the enlisted type. If there is such a thing as an embroiderd version, it certainly wouldn't look like this.


It looks to me like the wearer of this Luftwaffe helmet ran into some enemy solders armed with wire brushes and rotary buffing tools. A rather poor attempt at giving this helmet an "aged" look. Helmets are one of the toughest things to collect in this hobby.... as far as fakes are concerned. If you are not an expert, be sure you have a friend who is.

I like the touch of putting the HJ diamond on this helmet. Makes it "rare". I can't really tell about the eagle in the condition it's in. All that aside, the thing about this pic that's interesting is the rust. Note how nice and red and fresh it is after 60 years! Obviously recently done "ageing".


Lots of nice stamping on this fake helmet strap. Why fake you say? Look at the holes, they are always oval on real German straps.

The seller of this cap was careful not to show the SS skull too closely, but it was close enough. It's an obvious fake. Surprisingly, from what I can see, the eagle doesn't look too bad. Go figure!


Notice the button hole on the "inside" of the SS cap. What does this tell you? Ok, it should tell you that this cap was made from an old overcoat or jacket. It's possible that they might have done this during the hard days of the war, but let's not forget that fake skull. If the skull is fake we can safely assume the cap is fake.

Don't post fakes on our web site!

Bob Treend, "They Keep Trying", Militaria Blog, 2009

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Thursday, January 15, 2009

There's One Made Every Minute

SS Bullion Collar Tabs

In this installment on repro cloth insignia I want to show you some examples of the currently imported fake SS collar tabs. You may think l'm overly concerned with the SS, what with last month's installment on SS cufftitles and now this one on SS collar tabs, but the fact is that SS insignia is a favorite not only with collectors. but with the fakers. And considering the money at stake I think everyone should be aware of what's happening.

It's said a picture is worth a thousand words, and this couldn't be more true any where than in militaria collecting. Therefore, I'm devoting most of the space available for this article to the pictures.

All of the retros shown here are good enough to fool a novice collector, and there is no way that I can make an expert out of everyone with this article. The best thing to do to protect yourself is to remember that originals of these are almost always made with extreme precision. If you look closely at a quality bullion SS collar tab, one that is of the usual type, not some weird variation made in "Lower Slabovia", and you notice any sloppiness in the workmanship, then be careful. Studying originals is also a must. Visit a collector friend who knows his stuff and study the pieces in his collection that you're sure of.

Above: Detail of some tabs. One the left is an original and in middle is the repro. Arrows points to the edges of the oakleaves showing the obvious difference in quality of the embroidery. "Tight", this the word I use most often to describe SS embroidery. On the right is detail of the back of an original tab. Note the pattern of the backing material. It is of a milky white and somewhat shinny. Almost all original tabs have this type of backing, only the size of the opening in the black material varies.

In the above pictures; at first glance they look pretty good. They're fake. Notice on the "Ost" tab (No. 1) that the upper tip of the "t" is very sloppy and on the tabs with the crossed lances (No. 2&4) there is a lack of precision in the embroidery, the lance poles are almost crooked. The oakleaf tab (No. 5) is VERY well done. The shape of the oakleaves in almost exactly like that of an original SA Gruppenfuhrer. This piece is in silver bullion on black and was offered as an SS tab, even thought the SS did not use this shape leaves. If the maker can do this in silver on black then he can do it in other colors as SA tabs. No. 7 is so well done it's spooky! I suggest great care when buying these types of tabs, as these fakes can be real tough to identify.

In the above pictures the left are original tabs, on the right are fakes. Note the fine quality of the embroidery on the originals, the strands of thread are sewn very evenly with almost perfect spacing (tight), whereas on the fakes there is an unevenness and lack of precision to the embroidery. Notice the pips on the two originals are slightly different. This is fine, because variations do exist.

One last point. The bullion wire of SS tabs is made up of a round center core thread around which is wrapped a flat aluminum thread. On every "original" SS bullion tab I've ever seen, the center core thread is white. I have encounted some good looking fakes that had a black center core.

Bob Treend, "There's One Made Every Minute", Der Gauleiter, 1990

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