Tuesday, September 11, 2007

SA Dagger Trademarks


Quite often, while engaged in my favorite pastime, I would notice the description "rare" or "unusual maker" applied to early S.A. daggers. It got to the point that every other dagger I ran across was classified as having a rare maker mark. "They can't all be that rare." I thought to myself.

Time went by and curiosity finally got the better of me. Just who were the "rare" makers and how many makers were there anyway? I decided to do a frequency study of early SA. daggers. That is, I wanted to examine a large random sample of S.A. daggers and tally how many of each manufacturer were encountered.

The first thing I needed was a large sample of early SA. daggers.

I was thinking along the lines of 500 to 1000 daggers to get a good grasp of just what a rare trademark really was. This was no easy task. I could have grabbed the catalogs from three or four auction houses and ten or twelve dealer lists and gone from there, but I didn't like this idea for a number of reasons. For instance, dealer A has had several Eickhorn daggers on his last three lists. Are they the same ones going unsold month after month, or are they fresh ones each month? What about dealer E, does he really know daggers well enough to tell the good from the bad? I needed more consistency and control in my sample set. I decided to rely strictly on the S.A. daggers offered for sale in the catalogs from a single source. This source has been around for a long time, has a good turnover and I would be able to get a large sample. I examined catalogs from the mid- 1980's to present and my sample accounted for 610 daggers. I did not tally Rohm Honor daggers or N.S.K.K. daggers (even though the early ones started out as S.A.'s). I did not tally dagger blades offered as parts or R.Z.M. marked pieces... strictly early SA. enlisted model daggers.

Please keep in mind several things. This study in no way is an indication of how many daggers were manufactured by specific makers, but only what is available for sale in the American market place.

While most of the blade making was concentrated around Solingen, other areas of Germany were also represented. My study showed that 6 out of 610 daggers encountered were attributed to Raco in Berlin. Is this because Raco was a small Mom and Pop operation or because most of the area encompassed by the Berlin SA. Group fell into Soviet hands?

Photographic evidence from the period indicates Soviet soldiers were just as fond of souvenir daggers as American GJ.'s. I would wager that in terms of numbers manufactured, Raco produced daggers were not as rare as one might believe. Aesculap was located in the city of Tuttlingen which was in the confines of SA. Group Southwest. It is as common a maker as Eickhorn or Pack and is nearly always found with a "Sw" group mark on the crossguard. My point is that S.A. groups would use locally produced daggers, if available, and that manufacturing centers that fell behind the Iron Curtain (Berlin, Suhl, etc.) may not show the frequency in American markets that they should, in terms of numbers manufactured.I would like to offer a few closing observations.

This list does not contain the name of every maker of early S.A. daggers known to exist. New trademarks are constantly being added to the list as they "pop up" and I would estimate that there are at least two dozen more that do not appear in my survey, Thse would have to be considered very scarce indeed. My study certainly shows that unusual makers greatly outnumber the common ones. There seems to be only a handful of makers with 15 or more tallies. Lastly, some makers that we would expect to be common (Alcoso, WKC, etc.,) were actually quite scarce. Fascinating isn't it?

Aesculap 30

Alcoso 1

Asso 7

F.W. Backhaus 5

Julius Bahrl, Jr. 1

Rich. Balke & Sohn 1

Fritz Barthelmess 6

Gebr. Becker 1

Gebr. Bell 5

Carl Bender 1

Gebr. Berns 1

Hugo Berns 1

August Bickel 17

Bismark 3

Gebr. Bohme 3

Bontgen & Sabin 4

Gebr. Born 2

Christianswerk 4

Chromolit 1

Clemens & Jung 1

F. Dick 17

J. Dirlam & Sohn 1

J.E. Dittert 1

Albert Dorschel 2

Paul Ebel 3

Carl Eickhorn 34

Eppenstein 6

G. Felix Gloriawerk 2

Friedrich Geigis 1

Ed. Gembruch 1

Rob Giersch 2

Giesen & Forsthoff 3

Gebr. Grafrath 3

Ernst Grah 1

Greinhold Grah 1

R. Haastert & Bull 2

Haco 6

Haenel 14

Gustav Haker 6

Wilh. Halbach 1

Hammesfahr Cie 12

Rich & E. Hartkoop 1

Carl Heindelberg 2

J.A. Henckels 10

Gebr. Heller 32

Paul A. Henckels 1

Henkel & Muller 1

Herbeck & Meyer 2

Herbetz & Meurer 6

F. Herder 17

H. Herder 3

Robert Herder 2

Gottfried Hoppe & Sohne 1

E. & F. Horster 3

C.F. Kayser 1

Ernst Kemper 1

Klittermann & Moog 2

Aug. Knecht 1

Jacobs 3

Kaufmann & Sohne 6

Wilh. Kober 19

Paul Kohl 1

Fr. V.D. Kohlen 2

Hugo Koller 7

Herrn. Konejung 7

Kolum Buswerk Eduard Becker 2

Pet. Dan Krebs 1

Carl Julius Krebs 13

Wilh. Krieger 1

Gebr. Krumm 2

Krusius 6

H & F Lauterjung 1

Leuco 2

c.R. Linder 4

Hugo Linder 6

Peter Lungstrass 3

E. Luttges & Co. 2

MaIsch & Ambronn 4

Karl MaIsch Steinbach 2

Aug. MaIsch Fr. Sohn 1

Carl Aug. Meis 2

Mav. & Vom Hau 1

Albert Mebus 1

Melzer & Feller 1

August Merten 4

Gottfried Muller 10

Josef Munch 2

Fred Neuhaus 4

F. Ed. Ohliger 1

Julius Ohliger 2

E. Pack & Sohne 32

Pfeilringwerk 1

Puma 6

Hugo Rader 2

Wilh. Kober 19

Paul Kohl 1

Fr. V.D. Kohlen 2

Hugo Koller 7

Herrn. Konejung 7

Kolum Buswerk Eduard Becker 2

Pet. Dan Krebs 1

Carl Julius Krebs 13

Wilh. Krieger 1

Gebr. Krumm 2

Krusius 6

H & F Lauterjung 1

Leuco 2

C.R. Linder 4

Hugo Linder 6

Peter Lungstrass 3

E. Luttges & Co. 2

MaIsch & Ambronn 4

Karl MaIsch Steinbach 2

Aug. MaIsch Fr. Sohn 1

Carl Aug. Meis 2

Mav. & Vom Hau 1

Albert Mebus 1

Melzer & Feller 1

August Merten 4

Gottfried Muller 10

Josef Munch 2

Fred Neuhaus 4

F. Ed. Ohliger 1

Julius Ohliger 2

E. Pack & Sohne 32

Pfeilringwerk 1

Puma 6

Hugo Rader 2

J. Reuleaux 1

Kuno Ritter 3

Roma (Romi?) 1

Romuso 1

August Rother 1

J.P. Sauer & Sohn 15

Eugene Schidt 1

Jos. Schlimbach 1

Carl Schmidt Sohn 5

J.A. Schmidt & Sohn 1

Rudolf Schmidt 1

Freidr. Aug. Schmitz 2

Hermann Schneider 1

Abr. Schnitter 1

E. Schrick & Sohn 1

Neidhardt & Schmidt 3

Paul Seilheimer 7

Otto Simon 1

SMF 8

Spateneder Munchen 4

Gustav C. Spitzer 6

Karl Spitzer Maisch 1

Franz Steinhoff 2

Sudd Messer Fabrik 1

Tiger 6

Undine 2

Justin Uswerk 5

Adolf Volker 5

Emil Voss 1

Gustav Voss 1

F. von Brosy Steinberg 1

Waffenhammer Deggendorf 1

Wagner & Lange 7

Gottfried Weyersburg 1

Gust. Weyersburg 1

Max Weyersburg 3

Reinh. Weyersburg 1

Anton Wingen 10

Gustav Wirth 4

WKC 2

Carl Wusthof 9

Ed. Wusthof 19

John Paul Huff, "S.A. Dagger Trademarks", DER GAULEITER, 1993

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4 Comments:

Blogger bart. said...

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October 28, 2007 4:36 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

I have an SA Dagger with the name of the maker as F Herder A. S. then Sollingen under that. The logo is two keys crossed.

Any Ideas on this one.

August 19, 2008 9:46 AM  
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April 9, 2010 12:16 AM  
Blogger brianthepf said...

i have an sa dagger with the name f.w. backhaus with solingen under. the logo in the middle is a person on a big bird, pleas let me know what you think

May 4, 2010 11:50 PM  

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